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PostSubject: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Mon May 30, 2011 11:27 am

If anybody is interested in building stages, please leave a short note here which stages you're going to do. No need for double work.
And when you're finished, you can post the stages here, to keep them in one place.

I'll regularly update this first post to have a good overview.
And at the bottom (in the spoiler) there's a prioritised list of races/stages still to be done, if someone wants to lend a hand.

Finished (the name of the race is a clickable link to the uploaded file):
British Championships (RR & ITT): wackojacko
Eddie Soens Memorial (basic): wackojacko
East Midlands Cicle Classic (basic): wackojacko
Lincoln GP: wackojacko
An Post Rás (2010): wackojacko
Tour of Britain (2008): wackojacko
Tour du Faso (2008): wackojacko

Sibiu Cycling Tour: wackojacko
Tour de Singkarak: wackojacko

Tour d'Algérie: wackojacko *stage 4 apparently corrupt*
Central European Tour - Miskolc GP: MrDeKat
Cancer Council Classic: MrDeKat

Work in progress:
London Surrey Cycle Classic: wackojacko
Tour de l'Avenir (2010): wackojacko
Giro d'Italia: Hermi & Fus87
Le Tour de Filipinas - Padyak Pinoy: Jaroslav
Tour Down Under: MrDeKat
Tour of Norway: markene

Planned:
WC 2011 RR (Copenhagen): Fus87
WC 2011 ITT (Copenhagen): Fus87
Tour of the Battenkill: Fus87
American Championships RR: Fus87
Univest GP (2010): Fus87
South African Championships RR: Fus87
GP de Québec: Fus87
GP de Montréal: Fus87
Tour of South Africa: Fus87
Irish Championships RR: Fus87
Rund um Ascheffel: Fus87
Giro Nortorf: Fus87
Jurmala GP: Fus87
Danish championships RR: Jaroslav?


Most important races that don't have real stages yet - feel free to pick whatever you want Wink :
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue May 31, 2011 11:55 am

Fus, have you started Tour of South Africa - because I've already nearly finished mine if you want to save yourself some time.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue May 31, 2011 12:03 pm

Apart from that I will first be doing:
British Championships
Eddie Soens Memorial (basic version)
East Midlands Cicle Classic (basic version)
Lincoln GP
Ras (might be old version)
London Surrey Cycle Classic
A version of the Tour of Britain - 2011 route isn't fully confirmed yet.
Tour du Faso (2008 version)
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue May 31, 2011 12:53 pm

wackojacko wrote:
Fus, have you started Tour of South Africa - because I've already nearly finished mine if you want to save yourself some time.
Apart from plotting the routes in bikeroutetoaster and knowing a whole lot about the race I haven't done anything.
So you're very welcome to take over, but be prepared that I will go over the stages very critically... Wink

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue May 31, 2011 1:00 pm

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wackojacko wrote:
Fus, have you started Tour of South Africa - because I've already nearly finished mine if you want to save yourself some time.
Apart from plotting the routes in bikeroutetoaster and knowing a whole lot about the race I haven't done anything.
So you're very welcome to take over, but be prepared that I will go over the stages very critically... Wink

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue May 31, 2011 1:15 pm

Come to think of it, I have done more:
Using impish's GPS Kicker I have imported the GPS routes into a XML file. Of course these are only rough versions, the gradients etc. will need some work, as do the waypoints.
But if you want, I can send you these files.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue May 31, 2011 1:23 pm

Nah I have most of the stages in XML format - it's just the 3D Version that needs doing. And seen as I just copy and paste from other stages, your verswion will probably be much better.

Anyway, here are all the other stages I promised:
http://www.mediafire.com/?u0olzec0be2r04y
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue May 31, 2011 1:27 pm

Now I'll try and get the Tour de l'Avenir ('10 version), the Sibui Cycling Tour (basic version) and the Tour de Singkarak done.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue May 31, 2011 5:15 pm

wackojacko wrote:
Anyway, here are all the other stages I promised:
http://www.mediafire.com/?u0olzec0be2r04y
Cool stuff! Already linked them in the DB.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue May 31, 2011 11:14 pm

Most stages are indeed very good, but there are a couple of issues:

ITT stages (as far as I know that only applies to the British ITT Championships) need a 'itt="1"' in the first line (at least in PCM06), it should read:
'start altitude="56" itt="1" /' (and of course the < and > around it, but if I include those the text disappears... Neutral )
Maybe it works without the 'itt="1"', but I have my doubts.

Some of the stages have cobblestrokes. These only work correctly if they're placed on a "special" road (the narrowest road available). I sent you (wackojacko) a PM about that already. This applies to the East Midlands Cicle Classic, the Lincoln GP and at least one stage in the Tour du Faso.

Finally, in the Lincoln GP, there's a short section on the Michaelgate climb at -13% (that is, a downhill). My guess is that this should be an uphill (+13%) instead.


Also, I'm a tad confused about the Tour of South Africa stages. Will you do that one, or do you suggest that I continue with mine?
That would be fine with me, I just need to know.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:19 am

yes, you should continue with SA.

I've never had a problem without that ITT start thing in 07 but I dunno what it's like in 06.

All the cobblestones are on 'special' roads so there's no problem there at all. they just turn pink in the final (3?) kilometer, but still work as cobbles.

And the Lincoln route is just what I got off bikeroutetoaster and I don't wanna change it cos it will knock the whole course outta whack.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:47 pm

Here are the Tour de Singkarak and the Sibiu Cycling Tour, using the best route information I could find - which, for Sibiu was very little, while google maps isn't fantastic in Indonesia. But they should work and both have quite interesting routes.

http://hotfile.com/dl/119548970/bb5a469/fodb.rar.html
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:56 pm

wackojacko wrote:
yes, you should continue with SA.

I've never had a problem without that ITT start thing in 07 but I dunno what it's like in 06.

All the cobblestones are on 'special' roads so there's no problem there at all. they just turn pink in the final (3?) kilometer, but still work as cobbles.

And the Lincoln route is just what I got off bikeroutetoaster and I don't wanna change it cos it will knock the whole course outta whack.
Fair enough. I didn't check the cobbled stages in detail, I just noticed they had cobbles and thought of the possible problem. And as it took me the better part of a year to find out what that problem was, I assumed you maybe didn't know about it. Wink

About the "ITT start thing" I suggest that crxfod simply inserts it in the file, to be on the safe side.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:24 pm

Fair enough (the two tt's in the Sibiu Tour will need that as well).
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:19 am

Anyone need some stages done? I could do Tour Of Norway?
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:52 am

Every contribution will be very welcome! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:49 am

hi,

i'm also interested in this database. but: my english is very bad... Cool

crxfod posted in the other forum, that you are creating this database, so i want to know, if you need some help for stage profiles? but i can also create the profiles, not the area around (streets, rivers, bridges etc.)

can anyone unterstand my attempts to speak english? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:10 am

Your help will be welcome.
I sent you a PM.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:17 pm

Will keep this updated for you. Sorry crxfod for beeing slow. Personal issues. Well anyways here is the first tour of norway profile for you Smile


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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:57 pm

Nice first one. Looking forward to see more of your creations.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:34 am

Can anyone find the race routes for any of the North African races? I'm finding it impossible to find any info.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:55 am

wackojacko wrote:
Can anyone find the race routes for any of the North African races? I'm finding it impossible to find any info.
On a quick search I was able to find some guide for the Tour de Algerie available here. As for the Maroc races I don't have a clue where to get routes from.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:59 pm

Cheers, it's a little confusing but I'll give it a try.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:35 pm

If you can make the stages based on maps (isn't there a google map waypoint converter or something?) here's the Tour du Maroc 2011 (its 2011 although it says 2010) http://www.marocainecyclisme.com/images/pdf/TM2011.pdf

Edit: And the Phosphatier Challenges: http://www.marocainecyclisme.com/images/pdf/Challenge_Phosphatiers_2011_v2.pdf

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:11 pm

Cheers, will have a look at those - expect to see some work Tuesday or Wednesday.
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