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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:40 am

Is there a manual somewhere on how to build stages? If so I'd like to take a shot at building some stages - preferably exotic or small races
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:10 pm

Jaroslav wrote:
Is there a manual somewhere on how to build stages? If so I'd like to take a shot at building some stages - preferably exotic or small races
I'll put up some tutorials (partly in Dutch, though), impish's GPS Kicker and some additional info later today or tomorrow.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:04 pm

I've started a stage building tutorial topic here:
Stage building - Tutorials & Utilities

Let's keep this topic entirely about stages for the fodDB, information about stages etc. and ask questions about stage building there.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:37 pm

I'll take a shot at the Padyak Pinoy. I know its not likely to be included but I like the race so its good practise.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:45 pm

Jaroslav wrote:
I'll take a shot at the Padyak Pinoy. I know its not likely to be included but I like the race so its good practise.
Included in the db? Tour de Filipinas is already in, so it would be nice to have stage profiles for it.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:09 pm

cheers
I made gps routes for the Danish National Championships too
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:57 pm

Here she is, Le Tour d'Algerie - looks a cool race. It doesn't match up exactly but it's a pretty good fit.

Le Tour d'Algerie

I'll do Maroc and the Challenges Phosphatiers next.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:01 am

Looking good!
Some remarks:
You seem to have missed the first intermediate sprint on stage 1 (in Chebli).
There are two GPMs on stage 2, both in Benghaia, at km 63 and 67.
The second sprint on stage 5 is in El Affroun, not El Khemis.

Finally, the race has only two GPM categories: cat. 1 for mountains with more than 500 altitude meters, and cat. 2 for those with less than 500 altitude meters.
Could you please adjust the XML files to incorporate that?

A general remark about your stages: When I open them in the PCM06 StageEditor, they still miss the links to the surroundings files (sand, land etc.). Weird, because they're present in the XML. Probably a compatibility issue between PCM07 and PCM06.
Anyway, someone (with a PCM06 StageEditor) will have to put these in. The stages are playable as they are now, but they will have all-black surroundings.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:55 am

Well, if it would be possible to send me the stage editor from 06 then I could do that myself.

in regards the other things, I didn't read through them that well so I will readjust accordingly.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:00 pm

Actually, the Chebli Sprint on the 1st stage is in. Others are being corrected.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:05 pm

Here it is: http://www.mediafire.com/?yckw48t31wdwrrc
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:58 pm

The Tour du Maroc file from their website and the stages + distances on cyclingnews (where I was finding information on mountain sprints) differ after Stage 5. I'm gonna go with the website link someone posted on here but the mountain sprints may not correspond exactly (although they're pretty rudimentary already).
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:58 pm

wackojacko wrote:
Well, if it would be possible to send me the stage editor from 06 then I could do that myself.

in regards the other things, I didn't read through them that well so I will readjust accordingly.
I've uploaded the StageEditor:
PCM06 Stage Editor
I don't know if any extra files are necessary.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:02 pm

Yeah, I think a lot of files are missing. No worries. Thanks anyhow
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:27 pm

Here's the "StageEditor" folder from PCM06:
StageEditor folder
One should think it includes everything necessary... but with Cyanide you never know.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:34 pm

crxfod wrote:
Jaroslav wrote:
I'll take a shot at the Padyak Pinoy. I know its not likely to be included but I like the race so its good practise.
Included in the db? Tour de Filipinas is already in, so it would be nice to have stage profiles for it.
Padyak Pinoy actually is the Tour de Filipinas, just found out: http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/tour.asp?tourid=1986

And I just realised crxfod said exactly that in his post... Laughing
Anyway, would be great to have such a race with real stages.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:23 pm

Nah, it won't let you extract that. Don't worry.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:06 am

I'm about to give up on stagemaking Crying or Very sad
The program crashes with every change I make.
When I add roads they look as if they are below water.
If I add cities they don't show up when rendering.

I haven't even begun to figure out how to add sprints, surroundings etc
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:28 pm

yo

carrently im playing tha 2006 pro cycling manager. nice to see theres a team whos workin on a 2011database.

im actually very fit with the stage editor, so if you like so, i can make a few stages for your db.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:36 pm

@Jaroslav: As I said, it's really not easy. Look at my PCM06 stages topic on PPDB to see how complicated it was to build just one stage (Cape Town), and the joy I felt when it worked.
Concentrate on what you're comfortable with. If you want to keep on trying, do so, but if it's demotivating, you can look over stats, find riderpics, research exotic teams etc.

@soler: Every help will be appreciated.
Apart from the GTs (Hermi & I are currently working on the Giro, but Tour & Vuelta are still untouched) I'd prefer to see real stages for the "new" races. Tour of Oman, this year's Tour of California, and the like.
I'll make an overview over which stages are most urgent later this week.

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:23 pm

wackojacko wrote:
Here it is: http://www.mediafire.com/?yckw48t31wdwrrc
Tour de Algerie, stage 4 doesn't work here. Profile seems corrupted. As I've got no stagemaking knowledge I'm unable to repair this.
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:02 pm

Can anybody tell me how i can create a finish of an individual time trial with points for the king of the mountain classification? i'm thinking about this stage (Giro 16th stage)!
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:17 am

The finish code for that is "finish_itt_mountain".

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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:23 pm

are stages from pcm1 compatible with stages from pcm 2?

or the ones from pcm2 to pcm1?
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PostSubject: Re: [fodDB 2011] Stage building area   Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:13 pm

Amnezia wrote:
are stages from pcm1 compatible with stages from pcm 2?

or the ones from pcm2 to pcm1?
At least I think so. When switching PCM2 stages to PCM1 you have to delete that "version=2"-line from the file, the other way it should be no problem at all.
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